CSS newbie

My friend Marc-Antoine is a kind of CSS newbie. I converted him to the CSS religion some months ago. He just realized that most of the time, if something works in Firefox (or any Gecko-based browser) it doesn’t in IE, and vice-versa.

One of the hardest thing in CSS design is to make your design working with every browser…

That’s what I told him. What do you think?

P.S. - Oh by the way, I didn’t want to make a new weblog post for that, but we voted (73%) for the end of the strike this morning.

P.S. (2) - Watch for a redesign soon. Er, when I’ll have the time start something.

P.S. (3) - I like P.S.’s ;-)

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1. On April 7th, 2005 at 1:09 pm, Rob Mientjes said :Rob Mientjes's gravatar

Well, it’s a hard thing to get, but the most important thing is to get how the cascade works, why it doesn’t work in that other browser and how the CSS itself works, why it all does what it does. That’s what I tell every new recruit ;)

2. On April 7th, 2005 at 2:21 pm, Marc-Antoine said :Marc-Antoine's gravatar

True and Remi is a kind of CS* newbie. :D

* Counter-Strike

3. On April 7th, 2005 at 2:22 pm, Remi said :Remi's gravatar

It’s because I never played to CS :)

4. On April 7th, 2005 at 7:12 pm, Brook said :Brook's gravatar

I found in building my site that trial-and-error is man’s best friend.

Through trial and error you come to understand CSS

…and you learn patience!

5. On April 9th, 2005 at 1:15 pm, Jeam said :Jeam's gravatar

1- IE sucks but 90% of people on the web use it. So we must do something 100% compatible with ie or insert a BEAUTIFUL Mozilla Firefox Powered at the bottom of each website to remember them IE is not very secure for them!

So come on fiz… A beautiful Fox on your website should be great ;)

2- And, i think you redesign your website very too often…
But if is better than the present one… I hope see it soon!

3- IM proud to say than my website is in CSS only. Thanks for your influence fiz!

4- I don’t like P.S.’s but #-. Step by step mf!

6. On April 9th, 2005 at 6:44 pm, Thomas said :Thomas's gravatar

I hope the strike comes to end soon. Just thought I’d drop a line to say that I enjoyed the design and layout of the site and keep up the excellent work.

7. On April 9th, 2005 at 7:21 pm, Ash Haque said :Ash Haque's gravatar

It was weird, I usually need like a whole bunch of CSS hacks (all of them for IE) to get my site to display properly on IE and Firefox. After my last redesign where I aimed for XHTML 1.0 strict and everything I only needed one. PS. I found using borders on most divs help a lot.

8. On April 11th, 2005 at 8:01 am, septor said :septor's gravatar

Compliance is for noobs. All my previous designs render the same in every browser I’ve tried, and none of them are valid. So suck on that W3C, and all of you compliance-nazis ;]

9. On April 11th, 2005 at 11:44 am, Remi said :Remi's gravatar

Pat, if everyone’s having their own standards, on what web browsers developpers will base their work on? The W3C is there to tell people and devs that this is THE standard for web pages, this is THE standard for styling, etc. But if you don’t want your site to be compliant, that’s your choice.

10. On April 12th, 2005 at 3:09 am, Phillip said :Phillip's gravatar

I hope you relise your site doesn’t work in opera. Kinda sad really. And your comment, “He just realized that most of the time, if something works in Firefox (or any Gecko-based browser) it doesn’t in IE, and vice-versa.” which is wrong. And for those who said there are CSS hacks. You shouldn’t really use CSS hacks. Majority of the sites out there which use CSS hacks, could achieve the same design without hacks. They should be only used as a last resort. Its sad really the amount of newbie web designers out there who use CSS hacks when they didnt need to.

11. On April 12th, 2005 at 7:13 am, Johannes said :Johannes's gravatar

’tis harder too have tables cross-browser compatible.

12. On April 13th, 2005 at 2:47 pm, Remi said :Remi's gravatar

Yeah Phillip, I’m aware that my design is not fully working with the Opera browser. And by the way, I never talked about hacks. I don’t like them.


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